tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37222179.post7284084188867100248..comments2023-06-20T07:19:44.412-04:00Comments on The Four Mass'keteers: Ancient Whisper in the Garden - Truth or Lie?David Nybakkehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13172189118334371454noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37222179.post-76746355143825512712007-02-11T10:46:00.000-04:002007-02-11T10:46:00.000-04:00So, the point is to make the reader go to the link...So, the point is to make the reader go to the link, read it carefully, and then understand the irony in your last quizzical "...or is there?"<BR/><BR/>I get it now. Thanks.Athoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09158421880497827083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37222179.post-55872911889337110732007-02-11T09:42:00.000-04:002007-02-11T09:42:00.000-04:00Dear fellows, the link is crucial to my post and a...Dear fellows, the link is crucial to my post and as Porthos discovered, the article really helps one to think about this whole religious life issue that we have been skirting around of late with posts on the Poor Clare's and Saint Therese.<BR/><BR/>And your comment Athos: "Their contribution is not only to the Church but to the world ... even if the world rejects them." <BR/><BR/>THERE, there it is, the revelation that Girard has helped us to see through the scriptures and particularly by the Gospels. We get a peek at the truth in the very act of expulsion.David Nybakkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13172189118334371454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37222179.post-58531655838950926962007-02-11T07:07:00.000-04:002007-02-11T07:07:00.000-04:00Yeah, I got that on the surface read, too, but onc...Yeah, I got that on the surface read, too, but once I followed the link I could see that it was a splendid article, and then I recognized Aramis' opening voice as ironic.<BR/><BR/>Pretty much ALL of the great reformers in the Church, pretty much all of the great theological movers and shakers, and pretty much all of the great battlers of heresy--they were pretty much all contemplatives.Porthoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15068816321548529889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37222179.post-64931419521477168132007-02-11T06:46:00.000-04:002007-02-11T06:46:00.000-04:00There is a note of ambiguity in your post, Aramis,...There is a note of ambiguity in your post, Aramis, that may leave the reader with the impression that you agree with such statements as "The Second Garden, the Cloister Wall, is a dangerous fiction as was the first promise of God, seducing men and women to believe that the call to prayer and not the clarion to social reform is the remedy of the world..."<BR/><BR/>I know that you indeed DO value the cloistered life. The sister convent to my beloved Holy Cross Abbey, <A HREF="http://www.olamonastery.org/" REL="nofollow">Our Lady of the Angels</A>, prays the hours and works - ora labora - in faithful monastic, communal life. Such "dynamos of prayer," some say, keep the world from destroying itself.<BR/><BR/>But the social action types, like their secular counterparts, materialistic reductionists, do not see this at all.<BR/><BR/>To which Athos says, thank God for the monasteries and convents that give us St. Thereses and Thomas Mertons. Their contribution is not only to the Church but to the world ... even if the world rejects them.Athoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09158421880497827083noreply@blogger.com